{"id":1841,"date":"2013-10-02T17:08:02","date_gmt":"2013-10-02T21:08:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/posturemag.com\/?p=1841"},"modified":"2013-11-13T01:45:49","modified_gmt":"2013-11-13T06:45:49","slug":"blonde-a-painters-collective","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/posturemag.com\/online\/blonde-a-painters-collective\/","title":{"rendered":"BLONDE: A Painter&#8217;s Collective"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i>Painters Kelsey Shwetz, Ehren Clodfelter, and Beata Chrzanowska all deal with issues of sexuality and gender through the medium of painting. They\u2019ve combined their forces to form a painter\u2019s collective, simply called \u201cBLONDE.\u201d I met with the three artists at Kelsey\u2019s studio in Chelsea to discuss what they hope to accomplish as a collective.<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Interview by: Annie Malamet<\/p>\n<p>Photographs by: Lauren Renner<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A: Okay, so my first question for you guys is: How did you meet and decide to form this collective you have?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: I curated a show, \u201cGirls,\u201d and I basically just collected their work [Ehren and Beata] on the basis of it being really strong. We connected for the first time, visually, when they dropped off their work and then, of course, we had the show. It was wonderful.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: Love at first sight.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: Love at first sight, at least aesthetically and conceptually. Our work is very similar, naturally, because the work that I would select for a show would inherently be similar to my aesthetic. Then we just started hanging and we\u2019d go to shows together. And\u2026I just kind of always wanted to be in a painter\u2019s collective.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: I\u2019ve been thinking about the idea of being part of a group.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: We all have.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: So when Kelsey brought it up, I was just like \u201cOh my god,\u201d<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: Just fuck it, let\u2019s just do it.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: I was thinking about Andy Warhol and the whole factory they had and how they always made work together.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: Informed each other\u2019s work\u2026<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: The community, not only related to our work, which initially brought us together, but on a personal level as well.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: A support system.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: It\u2019s a rarity to meet two people at the same show, and I not only respect their work and like it and love it, but also like them as individuals, even away from their art, as people. So it was just a really interesting, natural, organic, thing between the three of us.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/LR2.jpg\" rel=\"mfp\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"1843\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/posturemag.com\/online\/blonde-a-painters-collective\/lr2-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/LR2.jpg?fit=2452%2C3663\" data-orig-size=\"2452,3663\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;4&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;NIKON D80&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1380090271&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;60&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;250&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.0125&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"LR2\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/LR2.jpg?fit=200%2C300\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/LR2.jpg?fit=685%2C1024\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-1843\" alt=\"LR2\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/LR2.jpg?resize=685%2C1024\" width=\"685\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/LR2.jpg?resize=685%2C1024 685w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/LR2.jpg?resize=200%2C300 200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/LR2.jpg?resize=620%2C926 620w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/LR2.jpg?resize=940%2C1404 940w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/LR2.jpg?w=2000 2000w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 685px) 100vw, 685px\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<i>Kelsey Shwetz\u00a0<\/i><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: I think also the fact that we are all so driven, and that was one of the things that brought us together as well. We\u2019ll say \u201cwe\u2019re having a meeting this day\u201d and all of us will just come ready to work. After having a few of these meetings, and a lot of wine\u2026<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: The majority of our decisions are made with wine.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: That\u2019s the silent member of our collective.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>(all laughing)<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A: Would you want to add more people, or do you like this the way it is?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: Originally we were thinking that\u2026at the beginning we thought, ok at first we would start with three and then we would branch out. I just like our dynamic so much.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: Last night with the Drink &amp; Draw [an event held at Kelsey\u2019s studio where artist\u2019s were invited to come drink and draw a live model], that was an amazing community building thing with artists and friends and people we\u2019ve never met. So in that way, yes we are adding to our collective in a way. But\u2026<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: Well we\u2019re fairly new. And to just start adding a bunch of people to it [the collective]\u2026 I think we\u2019re taking it in steps. And right now I feel that things are working out between the three of us. And so because it\u2019s working we can start planning shows, etc. So if there is no need to add on, why do that? But I think in the future, there will just naturally be more people.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: The three of us are so powerful.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>(Kelsey laughs)<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: We are! We\u2019re very powerful and strong people. Put that in print.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>(all laughing)<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: We have magic rings.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A: That\u2019s cool you guys are like, real BFFs [Best Friends Forever].<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: We actually are.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: We\u2019re obsessed with each other.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A: I really like that, I\u2019m into it.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: We actually each cut a lock of our blonde hair and put it on the candelabra [gestures to candelabra behind her], and we had a ritual.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A: You\u2019re like witches! I\u2019m thinking I\u2019m kind of oblivious because I had this question that was \u201cSo why is the name of our collective \u2018BLONDE\u2019\u201d and now I\u2019m sitting here realizing all three of you are blonde. But I feel like there are more connotations there\u2026<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: And it\u2019s developing. The name \u201cBLONDE,\u201d the meaning of it is kind of evolving as well.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: The name is meant to be kind of tongue in cheek. Kind of witty but also edgy. When I think of Blonde, it\u2019s fun. Yeah we\u2019re all blonde, but there\u2019s a humor to it, but also an edginess.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A: I feel like there is a sexuality to it.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: Yeah!<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A: That resonates for me with your work. And femininity.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: Yes. I like the idea of playing on the idea of\u2026well not \u201cincest,\u201d but just the idea of being brothers and sisters but also having this displaced sexuality, this sexual connotation that all our work has. \u201cBlonde,\u201d like siblings, if one is blonde the other is often also blonde.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: And it\u2019s one of those words also that [recalls] gender. Of course as artists we break down and everything and analyze it and want it to be perfect. So \u201cBLONDE\u201d initially I think was also [chosen] so we wouldn\u2019t be trying to hard. I\u2019m sure everyone goes to shows and sees paintings and the title or the name of the group, you think just \u201coh my gosh\u201d (rolls eyes), like really? It can be kind of pretentious. But \u201cBLONDE\u201d is just simple.<br \/>\nB: It is what it is. We\u2019re blondes.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A: You each have very distinct styles of painting that some how work together, which I <a href=\"http:\/\/posturemag.com\/online\/2013\/07\/02\/blonde-exhibition-review\/\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">wrote about <\/span><\/a>when I first met you. But how do feel that these styles relate to each other?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: I think largely, or course, conceptually. You just cannot ignore that. We are talking about the same things in our work. We\u2019re talking about gender, we\u2019re talking gender norms, sexuality, the expression of femininity or masculinity or androgyny. How we relate to our bodies or the bodies of others. We\u2019re talking about the same things. But we\u2019re carrying it out in three very different ways.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/kelsey.jpg\" rel=\"mfp\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"1844\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/posturemag.com\/online\/blonde-a-painters-collective\/kelsey\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/kelsey.jpg?fit=960%2C951\" data-orig-size=\"960,951\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"kelsey\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/kelsey.jpg?fit=300%2C297\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/kelsey.jpg?fit=960%2C951\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1844\" alt=\"kelsey\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/kelsey.jpg?resize=960%2C951\" width=\"960\" height=\"951\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/kelsey.jpg?w=960 960w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/kelsey.jpg?resize=150%2C150 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/kelsey.jpg?resize=300%2C297 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/kelsey.jpg?resize=620%2C614 620w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/kelsey.jpg?resize=940%2C931 940w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/kelsey.jpg?resize=90%2C90 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 960px) 100vw, 960px\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<em>Kelsey Shwetz, &#8220;Self-Portrait&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: Very similar message but very different techniques and styles of painting.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: Yeah that\u2019s it.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A: Because Kelsey is the most representational. But somehow it all works together.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: Yeah I think it\u2019s our palates also.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: I was going to say, color. When you walk in to a our room with all our work\u2026<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: It seems cohesive.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: Strong color placements. Even Kelsey\u2019s is more representational and realistic, there\u2019s a definite focal point of color. And of course Beata\u2019s tends to be a little more geometric, so there is that strong punch of color. With mine, there is that focal point again of color.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: I think there is a transition from realistic to more abstract. As a viewer when you come in and look at the work, you get those steps. You\u2019re not overwhelmed because you could just turn around and you could get something a little more simplified and minimal. So I think that\u2019s another reason it just really works. You get your full meal, a balanced meal. You get your veggies, you get your meat, you get your carbs.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A: Beata, every time I talk to you about your work you give a food analogy. I remember when I came to the studio and was first talking to you about your work, you said \u201cI want to feed you, I want to take care of you.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: I\u2019m gonna nurture you baby.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/LR1.jpg\" rel=\"mfp\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"1845\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/posturemag.com\/online\/blonde-a-painters-collective\/lr1-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/LR1.jpg?fit=2592%2C3872\" data-orig-size=\"2592,3872\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;2.8&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;NIKON D80&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1380090603&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;60&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;250&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.0166666666667&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"LR1\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/LR1.jpg?fit=200%2C300\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/LR1.jpg?fit=685%2C1024\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-1845\" alt=\"LR1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/LR1.jpg?resize=685%2C1024\" width=\"685\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/LR1.jpg?resize=685%2C1024 685w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/LR1.jpg?resize=200%2C300 200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/LR1.jpg?resize=620%2C926 620w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/LR1.jpg?resize=940%2C1404 940w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/LR1.jpg?w=2000 2000w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 685px) 100vw, 685px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A: I feel like, you\u2019re right, it is a progression. Kelsey\u2019s is, not that it isn\u2019t challenging, but it\u2019s the easiest to digest because people have a hard time with abstract work. So it\u2019s kind of like, ok I can digest this. Then with Beata\u2019s it\u2019s like, ok I don\u2019t really see what\u2019s going on but it\u2019s so colorful that I\u2019m drawn to it, I can get behind this. And then with Ehren\u2019s it\u2019s very conceptual, so by the time you get there you\u2019re ready to go into it a little bit. So I think that you did a really good job combining your forces.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: It was so natural. We didn\u2019t seek it out.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: And don\u2019t you feel like each of our paintings\u2026like with Kelsey\u2019s work if you really look at it there\u2019s things about her paintings that have such a punch to them. It\u2019s a very subtle punch, it\u2019s not super obvious when you look at it. If you look at this painting she\u2019s working on now [gesture\u2019s to a painting on an easel of two people, nude, engaged in a romantic embrace], it\u2019s a very classically done painting and I think what is so interesting and blows my mind is that it is so classic but at the same time it has that\u2026<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: Oomph!<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: Yeah that\u2019s a good sound effect.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A: Onomatopoeia.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: Yes, that\u2019s it.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A: Kelsey, what I really like about your work is the relationship between abstraction and realism. In this painting [gestures to painting of a nude woman on a couch], the drapery and the door are simplified and abstracted, but her body is and skin is so realistic.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: I think a lot of her work comments on contrast, whether it\u2019s gender, good and evil, beautiful and ugly, male or female.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A: You\u2019re all playing with those themes, which I think is what really unifies your work as a collective.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: I think the most unifying factor is truly conceptually, what we\u2019re making art about. I would say that\u2019s the most unifying factor.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: And I think what\u2019s so beneficial about our collective is that, technically we\u2019re all very talented and gifted. But I\u2019ve never felt so conceptually strong since meeting them and having these conversations and having them in my life, I feel like the voice behind my work has gotten stronger.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: It does something to you.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A: Is that what you hope to accomplish as a collective, is to become stronger artists together?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: Oh yeah. And I think what is so brilliant is there\u2019s no chance of us blending and being too similar.<br \/>\nA: Yeah because you have very different styles.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: Yeah there\u2019s no competing. I almost feel that maybe you would feel a little bit competitive if you were around work that was so aesthetically similar to yours.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: But we influence each other. Personally, lately, I\u2019ve kind of avoided museums as much as possible because I feel like I\u2019m at a place with my work where I [don\u2019t want to be] influenced by what I look at normally, which tends to be pure abstractions. But what\u2019s so great if I come to Kelsey\u2019s studio or Beata\u2019s studio, and I see a strong red or a strong blue, if I go home and take that element and put it into my own painting\u2026<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: It\u2019s something completely different.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: It\u2019s completely different. And I really feel like the three of us, we have things we can almost steal from each other.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: Yeah that\u2019s it. With no chance of stepping on each other\u2019s toes. Although for me it does something personally when you\u2019re so in awe of someone else\u2019s work, it makes you want to do better work. I\u2019m just really in awe of Beata and Ehren\u2019s work.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: And how lucky are we to have these people so close to us who are not so above us and so unreachable. You always have these artists,<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: Idols.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: These idols that you just really look up to. And how lucky are we that we get talk to people we really look up to. One great example is, I was having like\u2026a day. I was having what call \u201cEhren Days.\u201d So I just call Kelsey like, \u201ccan I just come over?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>A: You were going through it.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: I was going through it. So I came over and just sat on her couch and did not even, we didn\u2019t even really talk, she was just painting. And I was seeing how she was doing her layering and her shading, and blending it away. I took that into my own work when I got home and that\u2019s where that painting [gesture\u2019s to small canvas]\u2026<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: Yeah he presented this gift to me.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: I felt like it was a good gift to give Kelsey because here I am, I come home\u2026I mean I come over\u2026<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: \u201cCome home?\u201d What a Freudian slip!<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: Right? I was just so lost in a way. And looking at her classical work, I guess I \u201cstole\u201d that and took it home with me, and recreated it in a way.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: We\u2019re doing inadvertent collaborations.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: I was going to say that the work that I do, it does have that element of realism and that element of abstraction. So it\u2019s like, if you were to take that and turn it into a metaphor, Ehren is my abstraction, and Kelsey is my realism.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"1846\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/posturemag.com\/online\/blonde-a-painters-collective\/beata\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/beata.jpg?fit=679%2C960\" data-orig-size=\"679,960\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"beata\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/beata.jpg?fit=212%2C300\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/beata.jpg?fit=679%2C960\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1846\" alt=\"beata\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/beata.jpg?resize=679%2C960\" width=\"679\" height=\"960\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/beata.jpg?w=679 679w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/beata.jpg?resize=212%2C300 212w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/beata.jpg?resize=620%2C876 620w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 679px) 100vw, 679px\" \/><br \/>\n<em>Beata Chrzanowska, &#8220;Just Friends&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>A: Yeah Beata is kind of the meeting point.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: Exactly.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: So it\u2019s nice to just come in and be like, \u201coh ok where would I abstract with this.\u201d It\u2019s like candy\u2026sorry for the food again. I just look at it [a painting] and I\u2019m like, whoa that was handled so well. I wouldn\u2019t do it that way but I could definitely take that back, take that puzzle piece and translate it into my painting. But [points to Kelsey and Ehren] these are the two ingredients.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A: That\u2019s a beautiful thing that you guys found each other.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: Ingredients\u2026oh my god I gotta stop.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>(all laughing)<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A: What about shows. What do you hope to accomplish by exhibiting together?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: We\u2019ve had one show together, as you know. I can\u2019t help but feel like my work is strengthened when their work is there. And hopefully their work is strengthened when my work is there. I like the idea of people associating our art together and us together.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: And there\u2019s no comparison, which is such a freeing thing. Because we\u2019re individual artists we have our own desires and goals.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: We have our own shows, too. We have separate things going on.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: There\u2019s nothing that could take away.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: Only to augment.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: This is the soup bowl.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>(all laughing)<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: This is where we come together to marinate our ideas. Ehren has his stuff going on, Kelsey is going to Barcelona she\u2019s going to be doing painting out there. But eventually we\u2019re going to come together once again and share. It\u2019s like we\u2019re hunters and gatherers, and this our home, and whatever bring back we share.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: Yeah we each do different things and then we can add them together. We put them together, and then you take what you\u2019d like.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: That\u2019s beautiful. And we call each other out for our bullshit, too.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: That\u2019s another important thing. If you\u2019re at your own show and you hear people talk about your work\u2026it\u2019s very difficult to get true criticism, constructive or otherwise. It\u2019s also hard to give it. I think people are very sensitive about the things they create. It\u2019s so subjective also and you feel so emotionally tied to it that if someone who you don\u2019t trust makes that criticism, I almost dismiss it. It\u2019s hurtful, and then I discount it like that person doesn\u2019t know what they\u2019re talking about. But when you have these other people that you trust with your emotions\u2026I trust Ehren and Beata with my emotions completely. They can give me criticism and I can give them criticism and we\u2019re just doing it, truly, to help and to give our opinion. I think that is so huge. You get out of art school and you don\u2019t get weekly crits anymore, where do you get that from when you\u2019re out of school? It\u2019s hard to find criticism that\u2019s not from a place of jealousy.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: Yeah we want each other to be as successful as we want to be successful individually.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: Yeah that\u2019s it for sure. True support.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: I originally started out as a portrait painter. I started out doing very realistic work and over the years it just started breaking down. So normally in my living room in my apartment, I have figure paintings of some sort, and they\u2019re still a little quirky. But people like that. And then\u2026I forget what I hung on the wall, it was some pure abstraction. And people said \u201chmmm, nuh uh. I don\u2019t like that one, can we switch it?\u201d So it\u2019s nice to have someone who understands\u2026and just being around them, like last night at our Drink &amp; Draw, when I was drawing I just felt this power sitting between my two ladies.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: Yeah we didn\u2019t even mean to do that, last night we were just sitting around in random spots, and we ended up sitting next to each other randomly.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A: That\u2019s really wonderful that you found each other.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: I always make the joke that we have varying sexual orientations\u2026<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: There\u2019s someone for everyone.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>(all laughing)<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: Yeah there is a spectrum of sexuality and we\u2019re on different parts of it. Just like our paintings, we occupy different parts of that. Except sexually, I\u2019d be in the middle, not Beata. So as crazy as it is and as much as you wouldn\u2019t like to admit it, I think sometimes sexual dynamics can really muddy pure connection. None of us are going to run off into a relationship with the other ones, it\u2019s just not going to happen.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: Wrong pieces, it wouldn\u2019t work out.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: Yeah that\u2019s it. So there\u2019s none of that\u2026<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: Tension.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: There is no sexual tension.<br \/>\nE: Just pure love.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: Yeah that\u2019s it; it\u2019s sometimes so special.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: Our love for each other is just as pure as our work. It comes from a place of honesty and support and safety.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: Exactly.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: We each found safety in our work, and who would have thought we would have found it in other artists. I hate other artists most of the time.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: I feel like more and more there are less painters. There\u2019s a lot of new media, of course, these great new forms of art. But it just blows my mind that we are painters. I feel like I\u2019ve never had a lot of painter friends.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: Me neither.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: Not at all.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: So essentially there\u2019s a lot we can admire.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: And we\u2019re so different.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: Very different, but it\u2019s that topic of sexuality. The fact that we\u2019re all fine artists, our work is very emotional. But there is that distinction that separates us all. But the things that keep us together are very strong.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: I feel like we each occupy a very original place in each other\u2019s friendships. We each have a separate role, and when we come together we all just fit. It\u2019s just this perfect marriage. A perfect, sexless, marriage.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: We cuddle a lot.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: We do.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: Yeah it\u2019s not like we\u2019re not affectionate.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: We\u2019re big snugglers.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: There\u2019s nothing sexual.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: Which is funny because our work is all about sex. I want to say, I think life is very sexy and I think it\u2019s the sex that\u2019s keeping us together.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A: Emotional sex.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: Yes. Sex is so important, the emotions that you get. Oh god now I\u2019m getting into it\u2026<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: Here we go!<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: Ok. If you think of an orgasm, the emotions that you\u2019re experiencing, they\u2019re euphoric. We\u2019re all artists, we all love creating work, but when you combine something you love, we all love painting, and you create it on canvas, you\u2019re painting that euphoria. So when I look at Ehren\u2019s work and I look at Kelsey\u2019s work, I see that, the sexuality, it sparks those things for me, that euphoria. I\u2019m not having an orgasm, but I\u2019m getting the same serotonin levels, I get that from their work. It brings me joy. The figure itself, when I look at the figure, its kind of an oxymoron because the nude body\u2026I think of it in terms of innocence. Nudity is so innocent. So when I paint, I paint the nude body because it feels like this blank canvas that I can work with. But the sexuality is that armor. Sexuality comes out as I\u2019m painting. I could accentuate any parts of the body and bring that sex back into this innocent canvas. I\u2019m diverging into this conversation about sexuality, but I think it\u2019s the sexuality that\u2019s one of the main threads that keeps us together. It\u2019s so important to our work and us as artists.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A: I\u2019m glad you mention that because I have a question, because we\u2019ve talked a lot about your work together, but how individually you feel that each of your work addresses gender and sexuality. Do you think that there are common threads among the three of you? If you could each speak to that, and then broadly how that relates to each other.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: The last thing I ever want to be is any type of painter. Basquiat always hated being considered a \u201cblack painter.\u201d But if I were to label myself I\u2019d be more gender based. I don\u2019t think my paintings necessarily address homosexuality as much as gender. Especially recently I\u2019ve been doing more abstracted lumps that still relate to the body, but they do have a level of abstraction. People can still look at them and relate to them, but they don\u2019t necessarily understand. A lot of my work IS gender based and addresses that struggle. There was a piece that was in our \u201cBLONDE\u201d show, it was called \u201cAdaptation,\u201d it was a larger abstraction. [The title] \u201cAdaptation\u201d stuck in my mind because it addressed the process that we all go through. We\u2019ve all gone through many a trial and situations that got us to where we are and developed through our paintings. For me, it was growing up in the south and having that internal conflict. I feel like my work and I are beautiful forms that when you look at them, you can\u2019t understand them completely. I almost feel like I\u2019m painting self-portraits. Even when Kelsey does portraits of friends and other people, there\u2019s still a self-portrait in a way. All three of us, you can see us in our paintings. It might not be a literal representation of us. It shows that process, that change, that adaptation. So that\u2019s where my head has been lately, making more vague forms. Sometimes they\u2019re a little more together and clean and glazed, and other times they are heavily abstracted. I haven\u2019t one hundred percent decided which paintings I\u2019m putting into our next show, but that\u2019s what these girls are for.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/LR3.jpg\" rel=\"mfp\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"1847\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/posturemag.com\/online\/blonde-a-painters-collective\/lr3\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/LR3.jpg?fit=3872%2C2592\" data-orig-size=\"3872,2592\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;3&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;NIKON D80&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1380090896&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;60&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;250&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.0166666666667&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"LR3\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/LR3.jpg?fit=300%2C200\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/LR3.jpg?fit=1024%2C685\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-1847\" alt=\"LR3\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/LR3.jpg?resize=1024%2C685\" width=\"1024\" height=\"685\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/LR3.jpg?resize=1024%2C685 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/LR3.jpg?resize=300%2C200 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/LR3.jpg?resize=620%2C415 620w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/LR3.jpg?resize=192%2C128 192w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/LR3.jpg?resize=940%2C629 940w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/LR3.jpg?w=2000 2000w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/LR3.jpg?w=3000 3000w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<em>Ehren Clodfelter\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: The work that I\u2019m doing, there has always been this fascination with the flesh, with the body. Usually when I paint I don\u2019t [represent] hair because that characterizes the person.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: Ehren doesn\u2019t include hair either.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: I never thought about that!<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: I don\u2019t add anything to my painting that would characterize the person too much.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: As a gender identifier.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: Hair is so important to how people are perceived. When you take the hair away, you just have people. The only thing that distinguishes male from female is body parts.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A: And not even that.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: Yeah you\u2019re right. If you just take portraits of people with no hair, sometimes it\u2019s really difficult to distinguish [gender]. Same thing with eyebrows, I try not to include eyebrows. I try to keep it neutral.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A: Hair is a social marker of gender.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: So I was just really drawn to the body, the blank canvas. So that\u2019s usually how I would start off, and then I would add other elements. Because if you think the body, there is a fragility to the body, the skin itself. So the shapes that I put into the work and the colors that are contained in the shapes, I look at is armor\u2026.so I\u2019m taking this pure flesh and giving it that armor and saying to the world, alright, you can approach this, this is safe, this is a safe painting for you. Also on the canvas, I\u2019ll have a lot space, a lot of blank areas, and then more built up areas. I do that because I want it to be a safe experience for the viewer. Like, here\u2019s a spot for you to become fascinated with. This is what I\u2019m fascinated with, and this is where you can go and pick at it and have some fun with this area. But when you need to rest, you have that in the painting as well. Another reason why I love [Ehren and Kelsey\u2019s] work\u2026the work that Ehren does, it doesn\u2019t necessarily mean that you\u2019re the guy I go to when I need a rest, and Kelsey you\u2019re the girl I go to when I want some excitement, but just having those two approaches, it is very comforting to be a in room with artists that have those two elements I incorporate. It\u2019s funny because they\u2019re like my book ends. It also just inspires me to push myself even more. There is realism in my work that I strive for, but I can never go all the way. I just can\u2019t. It\u2019s not in my nature to give everything to the viewer. I want there to be elements that the viewer puzzles together on their own. So I love coming into Kelsey\u2019s studio and being like\u2026DAMN girl. That\u2019s good. That\u2019s my food for thought right there. I can go home and just paint in my studio and feel very satisfied.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: I think the way I approach work is presenting things that, for some reason, society is just not cool with. The idea of the vagina being exposed in a painting and it\u2019s not a submissive thing and it\u2019s not a sexual thing, and it\u2019s not something that\u2019s for a straight, male sexual pleasure. Even something like female masturbation, or the idea of the male being presented in a submissive pose but with an erection, for people who like to look at hard cocks. There is so much fodder for people who want to look at breasts and vaginas in fine art, in western art. Where are all the hard cocks? Where are the cocks for people who want to look at hard cocks?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: That\u2019s that punch.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: Even the idea of physical genitalia being flipped. I think people still have a hard time with transgender people, and what that means and how it\u2019s possible. Menstruation is also huge for me. I have a piece at home, and it\u2019s at home because it\u2019s one of my favorite pieces. It\u2019s a view of knees sitting on the toilet with bloody panties. I painted it in these bright, ice creamy colors, because it\u2019s pretty. I think period blood is beautiful, the colors, texture. I\u2019m trying to present these concepts in a very easily digestible way. Classically painted, so as not to be jarring, because I don\u2019t think these things are, I don\u2019t understand why people think they are. I have tons of radical, awesome queer friends; I don\u2019t need to be making art for them. That\u2019s preaching to the choir. I\u2019m interested in the fifty-year-old white male collector that comes to my studio, I want to open that dialogue to them. People that don\u2019t share my views already. People that think of gender as binary and think of female sexuality as existing only within the male scope. I want to present these ideas that, to me, are just true and they\u2019re facts. But it\u2019s shocking and it makes me sick and angry that a lot of other people don\u2019t feel the same way. So I\u2019m trying to have this dialogue with those people. I feel like it\u2019s kind of an easier thing to do if the work is classically presented. I also like the juxtaposition of it; I think my work is about juxtaposition. I like the idea of a classical aesthetic with very modern ideas. I like teaching things and subverting things. I\u2019m not ignorant to the fact that painting has been historically used to promote religious ideals and ideals of beauty. Oil on canvas has been used to drum into the public\u2019s head what is beautiful, what is divine. I want to divinize period blood. I want to divinize the male erection when it\u2019s not imposing, when it\u2019s for someone else\u2019s pleasure, or female pleasure when it\u2019s not to excite a male, when it\u2019s a private moment. What I really love about their work [Ehren and Beata\u2019s], is they\u2019re doing the same thing, they\u2019re not painting in the same way, but they\u2019re still getting this message across\u2026I like to see how far I can push things technically and draw back and abstract.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t understand the disgust associated with genitalia and menstruation in particular.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: \u00a0I think femininity is seen as\u2026a disadvantage.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A: We try to distance ourselves from femininity. Everybody does.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: I spent so many years of my life trying to be more masculine. It\u2019s a cultural thing for sure. Even in New York, as liberal as the city is. You can be a female, or you can be a feminine male, and still be powerful and strong or be seen as weak.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"1848\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/posturemag.com\/online\/blonde-a-painters-collective\/ehren\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/ehren.jpg?fit=500%2C731\" data-orig-size=\"500,731\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"ehren\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/ehren.jpg?fit=205%2C300\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/ehren.jpg?fit=500%2C731\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1848\" alt=\"ehren\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/ehren.jpg?resize=500%2C731\" width=\"500\" height=\"731\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/ehren.jpg?w=500 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/ehren.jpg?resize=205%2C300 205w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><br \/>\n<em>Ehren Clodfelter, &#8220;Adaptation&#8221;\u00a0<\/em><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/posturemag.com\/online\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/ehren.jpg\" rel=\"mfp\"><br \/>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: Or just constantly sexualized.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: That\u2019s something that the three of us have come together, we\u2019ve all been objectified.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: In the art world.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: As accepting and liberal and open as the art world should be.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A: It isn\u2019t really though.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: We\u2019re trying to push sexuality in a way that\u2019s\u2026<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: Not objectifying, but in a strengthening, consensual, way. Not to objectify the body, but celebrate sexuality.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A: So, tell me about your upcoming show?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: Well, it\u2019s November 1<sup>st<\/sup>. It runs from the 1<sup>st<\/sup> to the 15<sup>th<\/sup> at Gallery Bar on the Lower East Side. We came up with a name.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: \u201cSweet Skin.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: We are going to be showing multiple works.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>E: I\u2019m thinking four. We were also discussing having some smaller works as well, which came to us last night at the Drink &amp; Draw. We were looking at each other\u2019s drawings last night and how similar they were but also different.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: We usually have paintings but we\u2019re thinking of also having [works on paper]. Last night we were all sitting next to each other so we were all drawing the same view of the model. And we want to show these works because it illustrates how, we were all using pen and paper, so it\u2019s monochromatic and the same size, and we\u2019re all seeing the same body from the same angle\u2026<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A: But it exemplifies each of your styles.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: It absolutely does.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>A: That would be cool to show those.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: I think that would be really great.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: I want to say that there\u2019s a lot of anticipation because our work is moving forward. Kelsey is going to be in Barcelona, she hasn\u2019t given any details about what she\u2019s going to be doing there\u2026<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>K: I have a residency.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>B: And Ehren\u2019s work is also moving in a different direction with these amoeba-like shapes. I feel like I\u2019m trying to branch out, you know, polish up what I\u2019m doing, and to push the body into more of a landscape. But I\u2019m really excited about this show, because I\u2019m excited to see how their work [changes].<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Be sure to check out BLONDE&#8217;s show at Gallery Bar on Orchard Street November 1st.<br \/>\nKelsey:\u00a0http:\/\/www.kelseyshwetz.com\/<br \/>\nEhren:\u00a0http:\/\/ehrenclodfelter.tumblr.com\/<br \/>\nBeata:\u00a0http:\/\/chrzanowska.blogspot.com\/<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Painters Kelsey Shwetz, Ehren Clodfelter, and Beata Chrzanowska all deal with issues of sexuality and gender through the medium of painting. They\u2019ve combined their forces to form a painter\u2019s collective, simply called \u201cBLONDE.\u201d I met with the three artists at Kelsey\u2019s studio in Chelsea to discuss what they hope to accomplish as a collective. 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